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#21 Drave

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 04:52 PM

Welcome Dekker! I'm glad to see that experienced players are still joining. As previously stated by River you seem like an open-minded person and I like that.

By the way your compounding strategy looks interesting. For how long you are doing this?

looking forward to more discussions with you.

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Posted 06 March 2013 - 07:07 PM

Greetings, Dekker, you find the right place here, welcome in our community!

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 02:08 AM

Hi
Felmina : did up my investment with upto 10% by compounding got paid back in principle too, 2 months back
Benson Union : did finish a cycle and got back my investment too, 1 month back
Ture Profit : was very early investor in their actual short to medium term plan which they alterred it to 50 weeks plan, i waited did not crib or complain but now im nearly 300% in profit without compounding and waiting for my principle return in 2 weeks
Profitable Sunrise : the admin changed my e currency payouts to a different processer when at 175% and when i complained my a/c blocked
So, Happy to hear about your stratergies and best of luck for 2013 to be prosperous

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 02:12 AM

Welcome Dekker. Interesting view on compounding.


Welcome!
Your point of view on compounding is very interesting... I tend to compound after getting to BEP but what you say makes a lot of sense.


I tend to do the same as hyipsurvival... target BEP first then consider compounding. Once BEP is reach, it somehow eases the "pressure" knowing that you have gotten back the capital. Also, if a program really last long, to compound first then go for BEP or BEP first before compounding doesn't make quite a difference in terms of profit... but the latter method has less pressure.


Welcome Dekker.
I don't understand why someone has to take such a big risk compounding 100% for a month in the beginning of your investment. If you don't compound and take your earnings daily you can use the money investing in a second or a third hyip. This is another way of compounding and much more safer because you separate money and risk in 2 or 3 different hyips. The last 2 days there are problems with two of the best hyips in 2012 (PS and SG) There is a third one (BU) with no problems but you never know. I've been with them since the very beginning and I have very nice profits. They were very good pics but I had others that they were not so successful. I prefer what Gummy did with Ricanadfunds.


I also agree with Ilias by rotating seed money and spreading in other programs as a means of diversification and also a form of "compounding". If we go by Ilias ways and tackle two programs (believing that they will last long enough) concurrently, then chances is that BEP both programs will be shorter than if we were to stagger them one by one.

Interesting discussion!
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#25 dekker

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 06:13 AM

Drave - I just started last Nov after doing a couple of months of research. The only move I regret is the 100% compounding with Felmina - I will never lock myself into 100% compounding for the duration again.

Ilias - Your idea of compounding via withdrawing and then spreading the money into new HYIPs is excellent and one that I would certainly like to follow, but there's one problem - there isn't a single HYIP out there now that I would like to join that I am not already invested in. If HYIPs in the same league as Profitable Sunrise and ProForexUnion were popping up every month, I would certainly want to tap all my available resources in order to diversify into as many programs as possible. From what I have seen, almost all new HYIPs coming out are just garbage. All HYIPs are a gamble, but I prefer to gamble $1,000 at one professional blackjack table in a beautiful Vegas casino as opposed to playing two $500 shell games on Brooklyn street corners :)

This is definitely an interesting discussion on compounding and it's clear one's decision to compound or not should be based on a number of factors. I used Ad Solid as an example yesterday, but seeing everything that's going on with Profitable Sunrise, I think they are perfect to illustrate the pros and cons of compounding.

I deposited $1,000 with PS on Nov 15. I just checked my account and calculated a total of 75 interest payments since then. Had I not compounding, I would presently have:

75 x 21.70 = $1,627.50 available cash and $1,000 principal earning $21.70 a day

Instead, I went a little Gordon Gecko and compounded up until the beginning of last week :D My current stats are:

$814.23 cash, $4,168.97 principal earning $90.47 a day

My logic behind this was as follows: I had confidence that the program would be around long enough for me to eventually "catch up" to where I would be if I hadn't compounded, and then after that point I would be reaping an additional $68.77 a day thanks to my patience.

Of course the additional risks are obvious. I am still a little shy of BEP and all of a sudden Profitable Sunrise has become a soap opera. Fortunately, they are still paying so I am confident I will pass BEP, but that is something I wouldn't have to worry about had I not compounded.

I think it all comes down to a ) your tolerance for risk b ) how many programs you are currently in and c ) what new programs are coming out. My game plan is to target programs that I am confidant will last at least 5 months, therefore I am comfortable with compounding for the first month. After the first month, it's full withdraw mode where the proceeds go to any promising up and commers (if available).
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Posted 07 March 2013 - 06:50 AM

..........there isn't a single HYIP out there now that I would like to join that I am not already invested in.......


I'll certainly agree with that..
Gordon Gecko.... :lol:

Yeah, an interesting discussion.

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 09:00 AM

Hi Dekker,
Welcome to our community.....

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Posted 07 March 2013 - 04:42 PM

Drave - I just started last Nov after doing a couple of months of research. The only move I regret is the 100% compounding with Felmina - I will never lock myself into 100% compounding for the duration again.

Ilias - Your idea of compounding via withdrawing and then spreading the money into new HYIPs is excellent and one that I would certainly like to follow, but there's one problem - there isn't a single HYIP out there now that I would like to join that I am not already invested in. If HYIPs in the same league as Profitable Sunrise and ProForexUnion were popping up every month, I would certainly want to tap all my available resources in order to diversify into as many programs as possible. From what I have seen, almost all new HYIPs coming out are just garbage. All HYIPs are a gamble, but I prefer to gamble $1,000 at one professional blackjack table in a beautiful Vegas casino as opposed to playing two $500 shell games on Brooklyn street corners :)

This is definitely an interesting discussion on compounding and it's clear one's decision to compound or not should be based on a number of factors. I used Ad Solid as an example yesterday, but seeing everything that's going on with Profitable Sunrise, I think they are perfect to illustrate the pros and cons of compounding.

I deposited $1,000 with PS on Nov 15. I just checked my account and calculated a total of 75 interest payments since then. Had I not compounding, I would presently have:

75 x 21.70 = $1,627.50 available cash and $1,000 principal earning $21.70 a day

Instead, I went a little Gordon Gecko and compounded up until the beginning of last week :D My current stats are:

$814.23 cash, $4,168.97 principal earning $90.47 a day

My logic behind this was as follows: I had confidence that the program would be around long enough for me to eventually "catch up" to where I would be if I hadn't compounded, and then after that point I would be reaping an additional $68.77 a day thanks to my patience.

Of course the additional risks are obvious. I am still a little shy of BEP and all of a sudden Profitable Sunrise has become a soap opera. Fortunately, they are still paying so I am confident I will pass BEP, but that is something I wouldn't have to worry about had I not compounded.

I think it all comes down to a ) your tolerance for risk b ) how many programs you are currently in and c ) what new programs are coming out. My game plan is to target programs that I am confidant will last at least 5 months, therefore I am comfortable with compounding for the first month. After the first month, it's full withdraw mode where the proceeds go to any promising up and commers (if available).

I have also done some xls calculation. Compounding, sometimes 20 days compounding only ads 10 days to become BEP (you have to calculate this for every program seperately). The snag is that if the program scams before being in BEP in most cases you loose more money than not compounding. If the feeling is that the program goes for a long ride this is an option. It's risky and it can make more profit. Via calcegg.com you can also see what different strategies does.
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Posted 08 March 2013 - 03:06 AM

Welcome dekker, it's a good community with nice players. ;)

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 03:47 AM

I had actually this idea of compounding for some time. Difference between us is that you actually made a research for this and put in use. Going to test this strategy soon.

Thanks for your input!

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 03:25 AM

Thanks for the kind words riverofgold007! A couple of events over the last few years have shaped my investing style.

In 2010 I started investing in silver bullion at around $15/oz. I accumulated a modest stack and then I suddenly had an extra 10k to invest. In my gut, I knew silver would be one of the best investments of my life, yet a little voice in my head was yelling "Don't go all in. You have enough." I chickened out and used the 10k elsewhere. I regret that decision every day now.

In the summer of 2012, I started buying Bitcoin at $4 a coin. Once again, my gut, my heart and my research were all screaming "GO BIG". I chose to go modest. Now when I look at the price and see my investment at over a 1000% return, I am jumping for joy while at the same time extremely angry at myself.

So these lessons taught me that I'm the type of investor who, rather than taking many half-hearted shots at the net, would rather patiently hold the ball and wait for extraordinary opportunities. When those opportunities arise, it's time to rush the net with everything I've got.


Hi Dekker

I like the way you are thinking!!

I too have just started out and also my introduction to the 'industry' was through "TheBank". It was an introduction that's all, as I think his recommendations come in way too late, when a plan is approaching the end, rather than when just getting established. That's why I am delighted to have joined this forum - I also like Hyip-pulse.com as they seem genuine and on the ball also.

My current investments are not as substantial to yours but they are a start. I am currently in 4FX Invest (short term), cBank.cc (med. term) and Ture Profit (long term) ... this one is probably the 'rookie mistake', although I am only in for $180 in this one (smallest of the 3). I also have made a very small investment in Malaysian INC.

Really looking forward to keeping in touch with you and the others on here, who all seem great guys!

Regards,

Willow

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 05:30 AM

Welcome Willow! Looks like we are on the exact same page in our HYIP playbooks - I am also grateful to John with TheBank who introduced me to this crazy world of HYIPs but just like yourself, I feel he is too late on a lot of them. His approach is to recommend old HYIPs that have proven to pay out. Well, as I'm sure you have seen older certainly does not mean safer and in fact in many ways is even worse as an "old" HYIP is on borrowed time to say the least. I narrowly avoided Avo, Perfect Finance, Trading Coalition and Eurextrade which he had recommended.

I like your picks - I've had a good feeling about Ture Profit since the start and I think it will certainly keep running long enough to get into profit. Hopefully some solid newcomers open up soon so that we can get in right from the beginning. I check a number of blogs and monitoring sites daily for new HYIPs opening up and if I see anything that looks somewhat promising, I'll open up a thread on it here so everyone can discuss it.

Best of luck to you Willow!

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 05:56 AM

Many thanks dekker!!

I look forward to your thread. That's my goal also to learn how to analyse the new ones and get in at the right time, which I am certain is the key to being successful in this business. I am keen to spread my money around as much as possible so a blowout doesn't do too much damage.

Speak soon :D

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Posted 18 March 2013 - 09:53 AM

I couldn't find another place on the forum to post this so I will just put it in my thread for now. I am creating a list of all the guidelines I follow when selecting and entering a HYIP. I always check out the "Latest Scams" lists in order to see which HYIPs have recently scammed and what I can possibly learn from it. Here is a sampling of some of the latest scam HYIPs:

Lucra Fund

Start Date: Mar 6

Confirmed Scam: Mar 12

Days Online Before Scam: 6


BlueFXstorm

Start Date: Mar 4

Confirmed Scam: Mar 15

Days Online Before Scam: 11


Profit Monster

Start Date: Mar 9

Confirmed Scam: Mar 12

Days Online Before Scam: 3


Paymore2013

Start Date: Mar 9

Confirmed Scam: Mar 12

Days Online Before Scam: 3


Gold Idea

Start Date: Mar 11

Confirmed Scam: Mar 13

Days Online Before Scam: 2


Based on these observations, I've created a new guideline:

Wait for a HYIP to be online for 2 weeks before investing.

You have the best chance of making money in a HYIP if you get in early, but you do not have to get in immediately! By simply waiting 2 weeks, you greatly reduce your chances of becoming the victim of a fast scam! Of course there is no guarantee that the HYIP won't scam on the 15th day or soon after, but based on my observations, it seems that there are a lot of bogus sites that simply open up and stay online for just a handful of days in order to make some quick money. Wait 2 weeks, check the forums for payment reports, and you will greatly reduce your chances of falling for a quick cash grab.

There is also one other bonus with waiting a couple of weeks before entering - there's a good chance that the HYIP might get picked up by someone like the HYIP PULSE or Invest-Tracing in which case you can sign up under them and request cash back from the referral commission that they receive. For example, I received $16.50 back from the admin of the Hyip Pulse blog after investing $500 in Ad-Solid.

So that's it for now - I am presently waiting for Elite Capital Club to finish up their first 12 business day plan before I invest there. Bretton Trading and Investifield are also on my radar.

Best of luck everyone!
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Posted 18 March 2013 - 11:47 AM

I couldn't find another place on the forum to post this so I will just put it in my thread for now. I am creating a list of all the guidelines I follow when selecting and entering a HYIP. I always check out the "Latest Scams" lists in order to see which HYIPs have recently scammed and what I can possibly learn from it. Here is a sampling of some of the latest scam HYIPs:

Lucra Fund

Start Date: Mar 6

Confirmed Scam: Mar 12

Days Online Before Scam: 6


BlueFXstorm

Start Date: Mar 4

Confirmed Scam: Mar 15

Days Online Before Scam: 11


Profit Monster

Start Date: Mar 9

Confirmed Scam: Mar 12

Days Online Before Scam: 3


Paymore2013

Start Date: Mar 9

Confirmed Scam: Mar 12

Days Online Before Scam: 3


Gold Idea

Start Date: Mar 11

Confirmed Scam: Mar 13

Days Online Before Scam: 2


Based on these observations, I've created a new guideline:

Wait for a HYIP to be online for 2 weeks before investing.

You have the best chance of making money in a HYIP if you get in early, but you do not have to get in immediately! By simply waiting 2 weeks, you greatly reduce your chances of becoming the victim of a fast scam! Of course there is no guarantee that the HYIP won't scam on the 15th day or soon after, but based on my observations, it seems that there are a lot of bogus sites that simply open up and stay online for just a handful of days in order to make some quick money. Wait 2 weeks, check the forums for payment reports, and you will greatly reduce your chances of falling for a quick cash grab.

There is also one other bonus with waiting a couple of weeks before entering - there's a good chance that the HYIP might get picked up by someone like the HYIP PULSE or Invest-Tracing in which case you can sign up under them and request cash back from the referral commission that they receive. For example, I received $16.50 back from the admin of the Hyip Pulse blog after investing $500 in Ad-Solid.

So that's it for now - I am presently waiting for Elite Capital Club to finish up their first 12 business day plan before I invest there. Bretton Trading and Investifield are also on my radar.

Best of luck everyone!

I agree with you....Its better to jump in early but not so early that you become a victim of fast scam....Well said bro...
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Posted 19 March 2013 - 02:36 PM

Welcome Dekker.
I don't understand why someone has to take such a big risk compounding 100% for a month in the beginning of your investment. If you don't compound and take your earnings daily you can use the money investing in a second or a third hyip. This is another way of compounding and much more safer because you separate money and risk in 2 or 3 different hyips. The last 2 days there are problems with two of the best hyips in 2012 (PS and SG) There is a third one (BU) with no problems but you never know. I've been with them since the very beginning and I have very nice profits. They were very good pics but I had others that they were not so successful. I prefer what Gummy did with Ricanadfunds.

Agree
Avoiding most risk factor as possible is crucial in getting succeed with HYIPS in general

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Posted 19 March 2013 - 04:58 PM

I couldn't find another place on the forum to post this so I will just put it in my thread for now. I am creating a list of all the guidelines I follow when selecting and entering a HYIP. I always check out the "Latest Scams" lists in order to see which HYIPs have recently scammed and what I can possibly learn from it. Here is a sampling of some of the latest scam HYIPs:

Lucra Fund

Start Date: Mar 6

Confirmed Scam: Mar 12

Days Online Before Scam: 6


BlueFXstorm

Start Date: Mar 4

Confirmed Scam: Mar 15

Days Online Before Scam: 11


Profit Monster

Start Date: Mar 9

Confirmed Scam: Mar 12

Days Online Before Scam: 3


Paymore2013

Start Date: Mar 9

Confirmed Scam: Mar 12

Days Online Before Scam: 3


Gold Idea

Start Date: Mar 11

Confirmed Scam: Mar 13

Days Online Before Scam: 2


Based on these observations, I've created a new guideline:

Wait for a HYIP to be online for 2 weeks before investing.

You have the best chance of making money in a HYIP if you get in early, but you do not have to get in immediately! By simply waiting 2 weeks, you greatly reduce your chances of becoming the victim of a fast scam! Of course there is no guarantee that the HYIP won't scam on the 15th day or soon after, but based on my observations, it seems that there are a lot of bogus sites that simply open up and stay online for just a handful of days in order to make some quick money. Wait 2 weeks, check the forums for payment reports, and you will greatly reduce your chances of falling for a quick cash grab.

There is also one other bonus with waiting a couple of weeks before entering - there's a good chance that the HYIP might get picked up by someone like the HYIP PULSE or Invest-Tracing in which case you can sign up under them and request cash back from the referral commission that they receive. For example, I received $16.50 back from the admin of the Hyip Pulse blog after investing $500 in Ad-Solid.

So that's it for now - I am presently waiting for Elite Capital Club to finish up their first 12 business day plan before I invest there. Bretton Trading and Investifield are also on my radar.

Best of luck everyone!


I cannot agree with the online 15 days before jumping in, it can work sometimes some others not , cycles are a proof.
Studying the program and understanding the admin intentions and background is a plus when is a good program it will be stupid to be gone in less than 15 days when admin programmed his budget/advertising/promotion and structure for long run, and by be gone in 15 days will be a lost for him.

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 05:59 AM

Hello investing HYIP thank you for publishing yourself in this forum since I am a novice ne this and fodder your steps follow here in españa estan the things badly and with little money that I gain only I can permit day after day. I have been assembling a direrito to invest .... comenze in you spy route forex but after one year every been an lost (-2000 usd in one year) and now I go for the hyps of bony confidence that seguire very closely your steps... THANK YOU again for sharing your opinions

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 06:01 AM

Certainly have you facebook or twitter to follow? Thank you

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Posted 26 March 2013 - 07:35 AM

Hello investing HYIP thank you for publishing yourself in this forum since I am a novice ne this and fodder your steps follow here in españa estan the things badly and with little money that I gain only I can permit day after day. I have been assembling a direrito to invest .... comenze in you spy route forex but after one year every been an lost (-2000 usd in one year) and now I go for the hyps of bony confidence that seguire very closely your steps... THANK YOU again for sharing your opinions

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